In conversation with Christiana Figueres and Tom Rivett-Carnac

In the second episode of De Dépendance Podcast Farid Tabarki (together with Thijs Barendse) talks with Christiana Figueres and Tom Rivett-Carnac of Global Optimism.

Christiana Figueres is the former UN climate chief and the architect and public face of the most pivotal climate agreement in history, the Paris Agreement. Tom Rivett-Carnac was Chief Political Strategist for this same agreement.

We talk about their new book – The Future We Choose – and what can still be done stave off the worst and manage the long-term effects of climate change.